Some people have had trouble finding the bulk (42 minutes and 6 seconds) of the interview after it was interrupted just before 20 minutes). After clicking on the link for it, you may have to scroll down a second time (depending on your computer) to find the play bar (the usual inverted triangle) for the continuation.
Second Half of the Interview
There are 2 halves—twenty minutes and forty-two minutes because the interview was interrupted by a spam phone call shutting off the Voice Memo feature of my computer.
The Qigong teacher I referred to is Robert Peng, specifically the audio of The Master Key: Qigong Secrets for Vitality, Love, and Wisdom from Sounds True
I posted this today on Facebook. This is a very good article on the origins of the MAGA movement that sorts and clarifies a lot of details that are often left muddy. You can read it by clicking on a one-time reading as a nonsubscriber:
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2025/11/06/storm-warnings-when-the-clock-broke-furious-minds/?fbclid=IwY2xjawOfEKJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeEqiymzF2yWlm50RutjnhrwGWDiTkcoFsWitlV-W-eR6001eDqlxxjEFj4AU_aem_RlA-0Y0_fpjz47UmCW3knA
